Dell XPS M1530 vs. Apple MacBook Pro 146
I was in the market to buy a new laptop earlier this year and I came down to comparing to machines: the Dell XPS M1530 and the Apple MacBook Pro. I compared both of them to every aspect I could possibly come up with. Anyways both machines recently have received some upgrades so I thought I should update both comparison lists for those of you who might be looking for a new 15-inch notebook.
Update 4/20/08: Dell is now offering a 1440×900 LED and 1920×1080 Full HD displays.
I gave Apple a point for the Screen since they offer a non-glossy option which I truly prefer due to glare. Dell was expected to push out a LED screen over a month ago, however it hasn’t happened yet. The body of the MacBook Pro is cleaner, simpler, and lighter compared to the XPS 1530. In terms of Operating Systems, if you want OS X Leopard, chances are you won’t be able to get it working on a XPS; however it should a breeze to install Vista/XP on a MacBook Pro with Boot Camp. Leopard can use 4GB of RAM; however you’ll need 64-bit editions of Vista or XP to utilize all of it. Dell offers many more options for HDDs including a 64GB SSD which would be unusual for a 15-inch laptop. Dell also lets you turn your XPS into a Blu-ray player with an optional Blu-ray read/write drive which is great for watching high definition movies. I was irritated to find out that the XPS didn’t have gigabit Ethernet, which is great for transferring large files on a local network, especially when most new laptops have it. Apple won the keyboard war with its beautiful backlit keyboard with an ambient light sensor. However the XPS makes up with a Finger Print Sensor, which is great for bypassing typing passwords when people are around, and a better Web Camera. The XPS comes with a media remote control which tucks away into the express card slot while Apple now charges an additional $20 for their Front Row remote. The XPS M1530 can also be configured with a Sprint or Verizon mobile broadband card which will utilize the laptop’s antennas for better signal gain. I choose the 6-cell battery for the XPS since it was the best one which didn’t stick out. It offered only 2.5 hours of work time while the MacBook Pro gets about 3 hours.
If you didn’t already notice, there’s one major factor I left out on the chart: price. This part is what made me make my final decision which was to go with the Dell M1530. Dell offered a pretty good student discount in addition to their constant promotions. Apple also offers such discounts, but are incomparable to what Dell offers. With both configured to the highest similar specifications, the MacBook Pro was getting very close to $3000 while the Dell XPS was about $500 cheaper costing about $2500. In addition for those of you on a strict budget like I was, there’s more flexibility to remove unneeded components with the Dell to bring the price down. Anyways, that’s my two cents so please feel free to make comments.
Links: Apple MacBook Pro | Dell XPS M1530
tags: apple, blu-ray, dell, dvd, ethernet, firewire, hdmi, intel, led, macbook pro, usb, wifi, xps
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I just meant the MP is the best for gaming out of all of the apple machines with the iMac coming in really close, however, apple DOES advertise MP as the ultimate gaming machine. I agree that it is the best for gaming out of all the apple products. But DEFINETELY not the best on the market.
Mac AI over PC AI? There should be absolutely no difference unless it was a buggy release. The only differences should be in AA, AF, basically graphical things due to the differences in OpenGL and Direct3D.
I think you should go to http://www.apple.com/games/hardware for info.
I agree with the upgrading of hardware for vista but there should be no need with any rig made within these 2 years.
Also, why won’t your printer work on vista? Does the company not offer appropriate drivers?
Ah, if you made it that way, the MacPro is wayyy better at gaming compared to iMac, haha.
Anyway, yeah. HP do not offer appropriate drivers for my model, I guess it has to do with it being the cheapest among the HP all-in-one printer during that time. Go figures.
Im going to try WINE for gaming :D. Hmm, if someone managed to create a DirectX version for Mac, it would be much better and easier to bring games into OSX
You said it =D
Is WINE even available for OS X? I thought it ran solely on linux distros.
Even so, WINE is unreliable and only a handful of games are able to function properly with it. And out of the few games, they don’t necessarily function natively and you will find FPS drops.
Just get boot camp lulz!
Also, try a software called Cider.
http://www.transgaming.com/products/cider/
It isn’t really free, but its known to bring windows games to the OS X platform more reliably.
Hope it helps.
Yeah, only a handful of games are able to function but hey, its the only way to run Windows games natively. I know there are a few popular games out there that run gold on WINE. Surprisingly, some people report that it runs as fast as PC, no FPS drop what so ever. There is a company called CrossOver which is developing WINE, you must pay for their program though and its nowhere as good at Windows emulator (Parallels and Fusion). They have a normal version and a version for games which focuses on porting games into Mac. I also heard that Google is funding the WINE project.
Ah, thanks, you have quite a number of good apps, I like iAlertU, what happen if the software failed to recognize the same user?
what do you mean by “if the software to recognize the same user”?
I’m sorry but I don’t understand. Are you talking about iAlertU?
yeah, If Im not mistaken it takes a picture of the user before he/she leave the laptop and only activates once the same picture is taken again right?
So what’s the verdict, MBP or XPS M1530. I’m leaning towards the MBP. Help bash the M1530 and confirm the decision for me.
@Jean Well I personally went for the MBP for its light weight and extra VRAM. However, this comes at a cost of a SD card reader, a USB port(both kinda handy) and a large price difference. You decide what you want, the MBP can run both win and OS X so thats another up side. Not to mention its sleek and cool design. I would say the MBP is worth it if your not on a tight budget. The dell is a good deal as well but I just needed the extra VRAM for crysis ^_^
@John I don’t think so =s It’s just activated by the apple remote(menu button) and then when someone moves it, it makes a really loud alarm and takes a picture of whatever is in front of it. The only way to stop the alarm is to click the Menu button again.
Go for the MBP, if you like clean design, the MBP is definitely your call, besides you can run both XP and OSX, how good is that. I love my MBP speaker, soo clear!
yeah if it were up to me, get the MBP.
Hey, Just wondering if any of you have any opinions about which one would be better for photography. Thanks!
Hmm, okay lets take this from the hardware perspective and software perspective.
Because Dell allows you to configure your notebook screen, it is possible to have a higher resolution then MBP. My only concern about Dell displays is the quality, I heard A LOT of complaints about the M1530 screen quality that I decided that I wont be a cheap person by buying a Dell because its cheaper and have my notebook not to last for a period of 5 years, I want my stuffs to work for a long period and and not end up sending back for a display replacement. I know Apple SOMETIMES has display issues but usually its a software stuff and I heard that Apple customer service is the best, very helpful and friendly. Thats definitely a plus in my book.
Okay, now its the software side, I assume you are going to use Photoshop, somehow in terms of speed there is not much different between Windows and OS X into loading Photoshop, the difference is how do the application work in two different environment. I have used both Photoshop CS3 on Windows environment and Mac OS environment and personally I prefer the Mac environment. It makes stuffs much faster with all the features in Leopard. You can switch back between your web browser or MP3 player to your Photoshop by pressing two buttons (control + arrow keys). You have a bigger screen space compared to the Windows version (assuming both displays have the same resolution).
So I say go for Mac :D
The M1350 has the best Cost to performance ratio when it comes to performance and screen res.
The Macbook pro offers both the screens with the matte finish as well as the glossy screen. For photography, I suggest you get the matte screen. Although glossy would be much more vibrant and colourful, the matte shows true colour while glossy will only show that way on screen and it would be different on paper. For the matte, get the macbook pro as it offers a screen where truecolour would be shown. But a few downsides, have less options than the m1530 and costs a bunch more.
There are no issues about the m1530 screen john, whoever told you that doesn’t know how to treat their screen or has gotten a defected product.
All software you need, I believe that you will find it(or an equivalent of it) on OS X.
I’m contradicting myself but then again, they are both good laptops. If you are a pro photographer and it is your job, get the MBP for the matte antiglare option. If you are casual, both are good.
John Said “have my notebook not to last for a period of 5 years”
There is no laptop that would stay up-to-date with the software and hardware for that long. By 5 years, its highly possible intel will have released a 4GHz Core 2 Duo, while Nvidia will have released a card with clockspeeds doubling the 9800GX2. These advances will have left the MBP in the dust. Please also note that apple updates their laptops quite regularly, a good example would be the recent beef-up of the iMac. Even though you can keep up to date on RAM and some software, you cannot keep up to date on graphic cards(just laptops, desktops can be updated), processors, chipsets and mobos.
So please, don’t tell me you expect any piece of hardware to last 5 years. I would laugh and laugh at you. Yeah, you’d still get by if you used it for 5 years with surfing the net and playing fairly old games(Crysis is new now, but will be like pacman in 5 years) but people would smirk and laugh if you were to be seen in public.
I used to have just a 3 year old laptop, and my friend’s laptop made last year doubled my boot-up speed and basic operating speed.
Sorry if I was a bit rude but I’m just doing it for your own good. Even if I didn’t say all this, you would find your machine in the dust within 2 years and you would most likely change yourself. I’m just trying to make you know what’s ahead.
You misunderstood my point, I never say that my MBP will stay up to date till 5 years, but believe me, by that time only the softwares will be a pressure to run on my MBP like what happen to my 5 years old Dell, only now it has difficulties running Photoshop CS3. This is of course different if you buy a notebook to play games cause games will need the best hardware available but in software side, its different. Heck, they are people running CS3 on PowerBook. How old since Apple switch to Intel. I never mentioned anything about GPU, I just said that most notebook when they offer a GeForce 8600 GPU, the price will be almost or slightly (my term of slightly is different then yours cause I add in the quality and research factor into the design) cheaper then the MBP.
Thanks for the apologize but the way you reply my message is as in Im a little kid but actually I know the life expectancy of a notebook and I realize your opinion (and thinking) will be different then mine because you use your MBP for games, I use my MBP for Photoshop, Illustrator, SolidWorks. Not for games.
If I am going to upgrade my notebook a couple of years because I want to play the latest games, I would just get a Dell or GateWay cause quality would then be a little concern for me.
Sorry If I misunderstood your point. But I had a hard time understanding the way you said things(no offense) D=.
Also, it is almost near impossible to upgrade a laptop like a desktop. The only REAL thing you can change is the RAM. You cannot upgrade a graphics card on a notebook. However, whereas on a desktop you can upgrade almost everything.
Again, I’m sorry ^.^
@Lucy, get the MBP. I watched a video on youtube confirming that glossy screens do not show the real colour.
I accept your apology. Anyway why do you find a hard time understanding what I am saying? Is it cause of my sentence structure?
Chances are, if you’re looking to buy one of these laptops, price is not that big of a factor since you have a big budget. Both laptops are on the expensive side, but both of them come with nice goodies and extras. The biggest difference between the two is the availability of the operating system: The Dell can’t run OSX. I was a longtime Windows user, but when I started school and was deciding on a new laptop, I chose a MBP because it ran OSX (and the option to run Windows when I’m into casual gaming).
WUXGA+ vs LED WXGA+
any thoughts? Whats best for HD movies?
I dont care that LED is thinner and uses less battery because i mostly use in differnt rooms of house so itll always be plugged in.
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For the purpose of HD movies, the 1920×1080 is probably the best way to go since 1080p HD content will play in that exact resolution. However there are also some downsides to getting such a high resolution display. For example all the text will be quite small making it pretty difficult to read. I currently have a 1680×1050 display and even with decent vision, I can not read text from more than a couple feet away. The WUXGA will be even more difficult to read. Also if you plan on playing games for example, your graphics card won’t be able to handle that high of a resolution so not much use.
LED is mainly good because it saves quite a large amount of battery life, but if you don’t run your machine on batteries, then it probably won’t do much use to you. But other advantages of LED is that the colors are much richer and look a whole lot better. The screen is also much brighter and is expected to have a much longer lifespan without becoming dull or dying.
It all comes down for what you plan on using your machine for. If the main purpose is for blu-ray movies, then you might want the HD screen. If you only plan to watch movies occasionally, then stick with either the LED. If you plan on playing games definitely don’t get the HD display since your computer won’t be able to handle. Sticking with either 1440×900 or 1680×1050 is ideal.
Ok. With practically all specs being the same, the XPS with WSXGA+ costs 800 dollars less with the major differences being LED and the OS X. Im hoping that the 1680×1050 will compensate for not having LED. Crossing fingers for an LG screen.
btw jonathan, i hear OS X can be installed onto an XPS since both systems use Intel. You can google to see how.
yes, you can install OS X on the XPS, but believe me, you wont want to do your work in it cause the chances of something goes wrong after an updater or after inserting an external device is very high. I have done a hackintosh on my PC and somehow, when I go to Apple.com to download the latest version or safari, Apple detected my hackintosh as a PC.
Besides, this is a very subjective manner, a lot of people who tried hackintosh ended up buying a Mac if they really like it cause its not worth it troubling around an OS that you are planning to use everyday. I am on the even if your PC has OS X, the feeling is not the same as owning a Mac hardware + software. I tried hckintosh and Im going to be honest with you, I take a real Mac anyday or dont own a Mac or even tried (make my PC into hackintosh) if I cannot own one.
I bought an XPS M1530 last week, and I can confirm that it’s an awesome computer. Of course the first thing I made when I received the PC was to remove Winodws Vista and use a better OS on it. I’m not talking about Mac OSX but ubuntu hardy heron (8.04). Installation was snappy (25 minutes and I had a modern OS with all the software I needed installed and configured) in my 320 GB hard drive space i leaved 50 Gigs for Windows XP (for windows games). Ubuntu runs smoothly in my xps and everything works like a charm.
If you want a good OS for your XPS ubuntu is the right choice. MacMooks are surely good but they are expensive and you still need time to find cracks and serials or pay to have an usable computer. With ubuntu you have all the software you want free of charge and it’s so cool and stable!
I agree with Neff, why is Ubuntu very famous? What happen to RedHat Linux?
I run ubuntu myself, I have triple booted Ubuntu, Leopard and Vista on my MBP.
I use ubuntu as my regular workstation and web surfer cause I like the fully customizable GNOME UI and Compiz-Fusion beats expose and flip3d in every aspect.
I use vista for games and I sorta randomly switch from Leopard to Ubuntu everytime I boot up. I can’t take out leopard because my school requires me to have a computer with OS X installed.
I sorta regret not getting Kubuntu now that I’m more impressed with KDE than GNOME but I can’t possibly bother re-installing.
What kind of school that requires to have OS X installed? I never heard of such thing, cuz not many people can afford a Mac.
Well maybe its just our school then. We don’t “have” to have a mac but its highly recommended by our school.
Ah I see, that must be some fancy school then :)
lol…yeah….
there’s this PC fanboy here that knows nothing about hardware here. All the points he can possible make are:
PCs work better with stuff
macs suck
vista has aero
dell>apple
The only possible good point he says is that PCs are cheaper…I gotta agree with him on that one.
MACS SUCK DELL ROCKS APPLE RIPS OFF THEIR CUSTOMERS AND MAKES THEM PAY
yeah…that was my friend ^.^
hmmmmm…………….
What did I say about drinking jack……
yeah taht was my “friend”
I have to agree with Lolwut… Dell has better pricse but I prefer Mac OS X over Windows… For many reasons.
And Vista Aero “looks” really good and not to mention Vista Transformation Pack with XP can imitate it’s useful features, but not the “useful” User Account Control…
Also, Lolwut’s comment sucessfully made it… PCFanboy attempted to mess up multiple times…
-Fyre Vortex
People seem to be going for Macs just to run OS X. And most people want to use OS X because it:
1. Looks better.
2. Is user-friendlier.
I don’t get it. All OSes still use GUI principles set down decades ago. OS X, like Windows or X11 variants, still use textboxes, radio buttons, scroll bars, etc. There’s not much you can add to the point-and-click interface.
I admit, OS X looks nice, drop shadows and all that, ships with a few applications which make the UI a bit more friendly. But, is that friendliness worth paying hundreds of dollars for? I don’t think so. Maybe for the not-so-computer-literate like pre/primary school children. Windows has been friendly enough all this years, why the sudden change? And oh, spyware/viruses result, for the most part, from irresponsibe computer use; OSes are big and complicated, they all crash and they all have security holes, even OS X (In fact, it was the easiest OS to hack at a recent Hackfest).
Here’s a stronger reason for using OS X: It’s built on Unix but does not trade-off power for usability like other *nix OSes. Honestly, the ‘creative professionals’ Macs are targeted towards don’t care if it’s Unix. I don’t care much for it either since there a lot of free Unix-like OSes (Ubuntu, a Linux distro, being a hugely popular one) which ship with excellent graphical intefaces (admittedly, not as good-looking as OS X, but no less powerful).
If you’ve got a lot of money: buy a high-end MBP. Why the hell not? If you’re on a tight-budget, don’t even bother with lower-end MacBooks when you can get much more powerful Dells for the same price.
People seem to be going for Macs just to run OS X. And most people want to use OS X because it looks better or is user-friendlier.
I don’t get it. All OSes still use GUI principles set down decades ago. OS X, like Windows or X11 variants, still use textboxes, radio buttons, scroll bars, etc. There’s not much you can add to the point-and-click interface.
I admit, OS X looks nice, drop shadows and all that, ships with a few applications which make the UI a bit more friendly. But, is that friendliness worth paying hundreds of dollars for? I don’t think so. Maybe for the not-so-computer-literate like pre/primary school children. Windows has been friendly enough all this years, why the sudden change? And oh, spyware/viruses result, for the most part, from irresponsibe computer use; OSes are big and complicated, they all crash and they all have security holes, even OS X (In fact, it was the easiest OS to hack at a recent Hackfest).
Here’s a stronger reason for using OS X: It’s built on Unix but does not trade-off power for usability like other *nix OSes. Honestly, the ‘creative professionals’ Macs are targeted towards don’t care if it’s Unix. I don’t care much for it either since there a lot of free Unix-like OSes (Ubuntu, a Linux distro, being a hugely popular one) which ship with excellent graphical intefaces (admittedly, not as good-looking as OS X, but no less powerful).
If you’ve got a lot of money: buy a high-end MBP. Why the hell not? If you’re on a tight-budget, don’t even bother with lower-end MacBooks when you can get much more powerful Dells for the same price.
I admit that your review is totally unbiased. Well honestly, I have been using Windows for like 12 years and I never found the Windows UI friendly, I got my Mac for 2 weeks and I say that its UI and simplicity is light years ahead of Windows.
If it works for you – good. I just can’t see the logic in it; but hey, user interfaces are personal things (sorta like music, you’re never asked to logically justify why your musical tastes – some stuff simply pleases your senses more). I agree that they’re more user-friendly, and maybe I would recommend the inexpensive MacBooks to those who aren’t that concerned about hardware specs. (e.g., the occassional gamer). However, I need the specs. but I’m in no dire need for more user-friendliness.
For those reading these comments who haven’t yet bought a Mac: FYI, you can get Apple-certified refurbished computers which ship with a 1-year warranty and, according to the Apple store, online forums and some YouTube videos: they’re good as new. Google it.
lolwut?, you can install the KDE ’suite’ just like any other package on Ubuntu. Look it up on Google. BTW, KDE 4 has been released.
@cl3m0ns Not when you can buy a copy of Leopard for $110…
WOW I DIDNT KNOW THAT :)
ty, now I have KDE. But I have to get all my stuff again…..
I’ve had a change of heart. I said that low-end MacBooks aren’t worth buying. I was wrong. I need a portable 13″ laptop, and after getting an education discount, the MacBooks do, in fact, give better value-for-money. Although the XPS M1330s have 1 GB more ram, twice the hdd and a few ports, they have serious shortcomings (according to buyer reviews) in terms of design and reliabiltiy.
Yeah, you got that correct dudeman, I hear horror stuffs about Dell M1330 or 1530 according to the buyer reviews.
If anyone really wants to know the difference between the High End Dell XPS laptops, and the High End Apple Mac Book Pro laptops check the links attached. I also will highlight some points you will find in the links. You have to go into custom options on the links I have sent for each of these laptops if you want to see them the way I have described.
The Dell XPS M1730 specs
Price for Dell XPS M1730 with specs listed below without education discount $2,394
17 inch monitor
4 GB of ram at 667 Mhz running speed
6 MB of L2 cache
512MB Nvidia GeForce 8700M GT video card
200 GB hard drive at 7200 RPM
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz processor
Built In Blue Tooth
Vista Home Premium Operating System
Dell XPS M1730 link below, Just copy and paste the following line into your web browser and press enter to view.
Dell Configuration
The Apple Mac Book Pro 17 inch
Price for apple Mac Book Pro with specs listed below without education discount $3,049
17 inch monitor
4 GB of ram at 667 Mhz running speed
6 MB of L2 cache
512MB Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT video card
200 GB hard drive at 7200 RPM
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz processor
Built In Blue Tooth
Mac X 10.5 Leopard Operating System
The Apple Mac Book Pro 17 inch link below, Just copy and paste the following line into your web browser and press enter to view.
Apple Configuration
Mac offers a 10% education discount, Just type in Apple Education Discounts in the search browser of the Apple Store. I am not familiar with Dells education discount, and there is no easily found site for one. Maybe one of you knows of the site for the Dell education discount if there is one.
In conclusion it really depends on what you want to do with your laptop, on which laptop you should get. For Instance If you want to be a engineer you probably should get a Dell Because PCs run AutoCAD, Inventor, and other Engineering programs much more efficiently then Apple does unless you install windows to your apple, and even then Apples are not quite as efficient at running windows. Gamers should also go for Dells because there is a much larger gaming library on PCs then Apples. But if you want to be a Graphic Designer, or go into some type of Digital Imaging field, or photography, you probably want to buy a Apple because Adobe programs like Dream Weaver, Illustrator, Photoshop, and most other Graphic Design and photo type programs run much more efficiently on Apple computers.
Apples are not quite efficient at running windows? what you mean by that? I found that reason not acceptable. Do explain. I agree with your other points though.
I meant to say Apples are not quite as efficient at running windows as PCs. I have a friend who has a Mac Book Pro that is about 2 years old and has 4GB of ram, and I have a Dell Presario PC that is also around 2 years old that has only 2 GB of ram but my computer runs windows XP much more efficiently then his Mac Book Pro.
Both computers have similar processors with close to the same running speeds, and similar video cards. You would think that a system with 4GB of ram would do better but it does not. My only thought as to his problem is that the version of windows he is using may not be the best version for his Mac Book.
Hey, I’m going off to college this September and I’m in need of a laptop. I just need something that I can use for photography, graphics, and writing. I would prefer a MBP since I know some people who have my same preferences and love their MBPs and swear by them, (plus they come in 15 inch versions which is ideal) but my dad’s company runs on Dells and he prefers them and insists that they are the best computers ever. Personally, I don’t really like his Dell, it feels like a corporate laptop. I need something that is light, will last, no noise, and is designed with art in mind. A good battery always helps too.
So, should I listen to my dad like a good girl and get a M1530, or should I get a MBP?
The distinction between MBPs and M1530s, in terms of functionality, is artificial. Both have roughly the same hardware and, both run Adobe applications (assuming you’d be using photoshop, etc.) just fine.
Apples used to be good for graphics in the 80s, that’s not true any more but the myth remains. Here’s what is true: MBPs look better, they come pre-loaded with OS X instead of Windows (which will make you more productive if you’re not that computer savvy), they have brighter screens, are lighter, and have a longer battery life. And finally, they cost significantly more. If money is not an issue, I would’ve picked the MBP. BTW, M1530s are 15″ as well.
MBP definitely, what you want only the MBP can offer. Quiet? Dell is far from quiet, I saw a website which they give a detail review and they even state the noise generated by notebooks. The highest noise MBP produce is 40db which is only audible, the highest Dell is 50db (noisy). I have been using the MBP in class and I love it cause it doesnt emit those noisy noise and its so quiet that the whole class doesnt care Im using MBP. Would you like it if your classmate starts getting angry at you cause your laptop is noisy and its hard for them to concentrate?
Just install WinXP in your MBP and your dad will be happy cause all of his stuffs will be compatible with your mac, and if the softwares he use is non graphic related, get Parallels or Fusion and run his apps on your Mac.
MBP will last longer then Dell cause Dell kept changing their design and once you design is out dated, the support for it will reduce. I have been using my MBP for about 2 weeks and I must say that I’m impressed with the battery performance, I can easily get around 4 hours+ if I turn off the wifi, bluetooth and sound(when not using), reduce the brightness and turn off brightness when not using. This makes it convenient to be used in classes. Also take note that Im using garage band to record lectures and word at the same time so getting 4 hours+ of battery life while running this 2 application is great.
I can also make my MBP last about 5-6 hours, Im still not sure how I did that though so I will keep you posted on how I get a total o 5-6 hours twice on my MBP.
Oh yeah and get a keyboard saver if you do a lot of typing, it will reduce your typing sound while in class :D